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In this episode Trent’s wife Laura answers Patron questions and anything goes: From TLM to TMI!
Welcome to the Counsel of Trent podcast, a production of Catholic Answers.
Trent Horn:
The kids are asleep, so now it is time to summon the last of our energy for Ask My Wife Anything, but hopefully not the things I don’t want her to share. Secrets. So many. No, I’m just kidding. Thank you for being on the podcast. I know we both had a long day with the kids, you longer than me.
Laura Horn:
I want to die.
Trent Horn:
No. It’s rewarding, enjoyable. Kind of like a marathon is rewarding and enjoyable. Today we have some questions submitted to us by our patrons@trenthornpodcast.com. If you want to submit questions for future Ask Me Anything, Ask Laura Anything episodes, then be sure to become a subscriber at Trent Horn podcast to be able to do that. We have some fun questions here. Shall we get started?
Laura Horn:
We shall. Please read them to me, because I can’t see you through the ungodly the amount of makeup that I’m wearing.
Trent Horn:
No, this is how you naturally look every single day.
Laura Horn:
Yes, of course.
Trent Horn:
By the way, I’m glad that you’re wearing my Bayside High Saved by the Bell shirt, by the way.
Laura Horn:
In hopes that I’ll maybe look like Kelly, except for I look nothing like Kelly.
Trent Horn:
Do you want to be Kelly or do you want to be Jessie? Jessie was-
Laura Horn:
Who wants to be Jessie? Everyone wanted to be Kelly.
Trent Horn:
That’s true. I’m so excited, so scared, Zack. Here’s the first question that our patrons have submitted. How and which of your views differ from Trent’s [inaudible 00:01:32] I guess, do you disagree with me on certain important things?
Laura Horn:
Yes, I do. I’d say first thing that comes to mind is probably safety issues with children. I grew up differently than Trent did probably, as far as what we were allowed to do. Like kids riding around the block by themselves, things like that, I would be okay with, and Trent is not there yet, I’d say.
Trent Horn:
I’m really surprised by that because you grew up in New Mexico, which is just basically like …
Laura Horn:
I know. It’s meth central.
Trent Horn:
Yes. I’m surprised someone didn’t kidnap you. You grew up in Southern New Mexico. They just didn’t take you and sell you across the border for Chicle or something.
Laura Horn:
Hey, that’s my joke. Anyway, but yeah, Las Cruses wasn’t as dangerous as Albuquerque. Albuquerque is like a whole new level of crime, but Las Cruses was okay growing up. But I will say, actually, there were so many fights one day in my high school they shut down the high school, so maybe it actually wasn’t that safe. But my parents definitely had the attitude of typical … They’re great parents, but like, “Go ride your bike.” I’d be out for hours. No cellphones.
Trent Horn:
It’s just like Stranger Things. You rode your bike, and then ended up at a government research facility, and part of a Netflix miniseries. We disagree about St. Joseph.
Laura Horn:
We do disagree about St. Joseph.
Trent Horn:
We do.
Laura Horn:
I don’t think he was married before. I think he was a virgin.
Trent Horn:
There’s two views about Joseph. Was he young Joseph, who was betrothed to Mary and the brothers and sisters of the Lord are Jesus’ cousins? Or is he … Because if you look in art, there’s young Joseph, and then there’s old Joseph.
Laura Horn:
Yeah, but old Joseph could just be depicted because it shows his wisdom.
Trent Horn:
Right. Or is it old Joseph because he actually was married before and had children and his wife died, and then he was betrothed to Mary, so the brothers of the Lord are Jesus’ stepbrothers?
Laura Horn:
I understand the merit of that argument as far as apologetics goes, but I don’t think it’s fitting for St. Joseph to have been married. Not that you can’t be chased and married. Of course you can. It’s a holy vocation. But I just don’t think it’s … I can’t picture St. Joseph living the life that we’re living now, and then wedding the Blessed Virgin Mary. Does that make sense? I think it would be more fitting for him to have lived a holy quiet lifestyle and then wed the Blessed Virgin. But I will say, however, if he was married before, he’d have so much patience by the time that he raised Jesus, that maybe that’s an argument to be made.
Trent Horn:
Maybe you and I will debate it on pints. We’ll see if Brad will have us on to debate it on pints maybe.
Trent Horn:
Here’s number two. Have you ever won an argument against Trent before, where you beat him with logic and not just the stare?
Laura Horn:
Yeah.
Trent Horn:
Do women all know about the stare?
Laura Horn:
What is the stare? Is it like …
Trent Horn:
Yeah. Or I think that would be the glare, not a stare.
Laura Horn:
I don’t know. I give you the death stare a lot of times and you just call it out. You’re so melancholic about it. You’re like, “Why are you looking at me like that?” I’m like, “You’re not supposed to say anything.”
Trent Horn:
Even in front of company. “Are you mad at me? Are we having a fight right now?”
Laura Horn:
Now we are.
Trent Horn:
We do. We’ll talk about things, and then you’ll get me to see it from another perspective using … We both do Justice for All. We both do Justice for All. We learned using Socratic pro-life on college campuses, so that’s one of the first things I thought was super cute about you, because you told your little story. You’re like, “I talked to this professor and he said, ‘You can’t just ask me a bunch of questions,’ and I said, ‘Why?'” I’m sorry if I’m-
Laura Horn:
And I still tell it.
Trent Horn:
Impersonating you like you’re 14. You were 17, so I mean …
Laura Horn:
Yeah, how dare you.
Trent Horn:
How dare you impersonate me like I’m 14. I was 17 years old.
Laura Horn:
Yeah, we argue a lot, so we have very strong personalities, I’d say. I’m a sanguine, so I’m quick to flare, and Trent’s melancholic, so everything matters to him. We argue quite a bit.
Trent Horn:
Not quick to flare. I’m like a simmering pressure cooker.
Laura Horn:
Yeah. Right. And I’m like, “I’ve gone too far. I’ve gone too far.”
Trent Horn:
Right.
Laura Horn:
I take it back.
Trent Horn:
Number three. “I would love to hear Laura’s take on motherhood and how she handles the pressures of secular society telling women they have a successful career, be away from family, in order to be fulfilled.” I think I … Okay.
Laura Horn:
Is that better?
Trent Horn:
I was trying to get the lights. Now the lights look good.
Laura Horn:
Does it cover my chin zit?
Trent Horn:
No. Would you like me to edit that out?
Laura Horn:
No, leave it in. People need to see.
Trent Horn:
This is what I loved about you. You were so real and authentic. Authentically beautiful and real. Not one of these fake people. You have so much confidence.
Laura Horn:
Like Kelly. Who would want to be Kelly?
Trent Horn:
Kelly who? Is it bad that I was maybe … I kind of liked those Saved by the Bell … The girl Leah Remini played when they go to the resort for the summer.
Laura Horn:
Yeah. And then you never see her again.
Trent Horn:
Right.
Laura Horn:
Did you ever try watching Saved by the Bell as an adult? It’s objectively awful.
Trent Horn:
Which is worse as an adult to watch, Saved by the Bell or Full House?
Laura Horn:
That’s a hard one. I would say Full House, only because Saved by the Bell has Zack Morris, and so it’s still easy to watch.
Trent Horn:
If I said something like that about Kelly, I’d be in the doghouse for a week, but fine. We’ll just binge Saved by the Bell. Then after that, we’ll watch Boy Meets World.
Laura Horn:
I’ll wake up from my daze. “What day is it?” Anyway, let’s see.
Trent Horn:
Your take on motherhood. How do you handle the pressures of society saying you’re not fulfilled unless you’re out working 9:00 to 5:00, as Dolly Parton would say.
Laura Horn:
I would say I had to live that, and I did fall into that. I worked when Matthew … I wanted to go back to work, and Trent and I would have discussions/arguments about that. And then I did work full-time as a neuro telemetry nurse, and it was really hard on our marriage, so I kind of had to live that to realize that it was not for me. I think in general there should be one stable parent figure at home, if-
Trent Horn:
I agree.
Laura Horn:
Possible. In general-
Trent Horn:
It’s not like saying, “You’re a bad person if you don’t,” but I think it’s an ideal people should shoot for.
Laura Horn:
Right. Exactly. I just don’t handle stress as well as other working women can. But I think in general, honestly, women … I think it is probably good for the family if possible to have the mother at home. Obviously, there are situations where that’s not possible or they’ve discerned different things for their vocation. Anyway, yeah, I had to live it, and it was, I’d say, a dark period in our marriage.
Trent Horn:
We were so divided. We were like ships passing in the night. I think a lot of times when it’s this pressure, women have to work, I think a lot of times they work, and 95% of their paycheck goes to pay for childcare.
Laura Horn:
I know.
Trent Horn:
It’s like, why? Why would you [inaudible 00:08:23]-
Laura Horn:
Luckily we were in the position where we switched off, so since-
Trent Horn:
We did. And that made-
Laura Horn:
With nursing, you have 12 hour shifts, so that was a lot easier.
Trent Horn:
You would do three 12s, I would do three 12s, and then I would want to die.
Laura Horn:
Yeah, that’s true. If you look at pictures of Trent during that time, he’s just so tired. In the middle of the night one night I threw a binky at his head, and then he was like, “You should probably quit your job,” and I was like, “You’re right.” This was a low point for me.
Trent Horn:
There you go. Super Nintendo with husband and children.
Laura Horn:
No, I’m pretty objectively awful, actually. The other day I was playing and I think Trent actually thought that Matthew was playing. Donkey Kong. The kids are always like, “Yeah,” and then I’ll do, and they’re like …
Trent Horn:
You’re getting better.
Laura Horn:
I know. I am getting better.
Trent Horn:
But I think more-
Laura Horn:
Super Mario World is my favorite.
Trent Horn:
That is a good game.
Laura Horn:
Here’s the problem. I was the youngest, so we didn’t have a video console growing up, or a Nintendo console growing up, so we would go to Blockbuster and rent it as a special treat. My parents would let us. But I’m the youngest so I would never get a turn. I would just watch my sisters. I remember going to bed sometimes, seeing Rainbow Road, and like I couldn’t get it out of my head.
Trent Horn:
From Mario Kart?
Laura Horn:
Yes. From Mario Kart. Yeah. Sometimes we would rent Nintendo 64s. I didn’t get a turn as often.
Trent Horn:
I was the oldest and-
Laura Horn:
I watched a lot.
Trent Horn:
I was raised by my Super Nintendo from third to fifth grade.
Trent Horn:
Laura, what are the top qualities a guy must have to be married-able? I think he means marriageable. He’s got to know that married-able is not a word.
Laura Horn:
How do you know it’s a man?
Trent Horn:
I think it was a guy who asked.
Laura Horn:
Did they specify? Aww.
Trent Horn:
It could be a woman. But I think it was a guy. What are the top qualities? What does a guy need to be marry-able? How does a guy land somebody like you?
Laura Horn:
Nice.
Trent Horn:
Was my pure luck.
Laura Horn:
Get them when they’re 17, my friend. Just kidding. Take that out.
Trent Horn:
I didn’t ask out until you were 19. I was good and responsible.
Laura Horn:
That’s true.
Trent Horn:
The other way I would recommend, if they have recently been in a coma, and so their cognitively deficient, they may not recognize all your flaws. That helped with us too. Yeah, what do they need to have for [inaudible 00:10:37]?
Laura Horn:
I’d say … Let’s see. I should probably have thought about this question more. Edit this long pause out. Anyway, a good Catholic would be primary. Second, someone who is responsible and a hard worker and self-driven. I don’t know. Someone who is always willing to grow in their vocation with you. I think if Trent and I both look back, I don’t think we would want to be married to the person we were married to during the first year of marriage again. I think you just grow and adjust so much with the person that you’re married to, that is the ultimate quality to aim for. By the end, you look back and you’re like, the two became one. We are truly one in this journey. Your wills coincide with one another. I don’t know. You grow together.
Trent Horn:
You grow together. I think also, honestly, just get a decent job and be willing to get married.
Laura Horn:
Yeah, that’s true.
Trent Horn:
I don’t have to do this. You have your own mic. No. I think the one thing that would make a guy attractive is that a woman sees he wants to get married because he’s genuinely fulfilled as a single adult person, and wants to share that with someone else. I think the problem is there are guys who have got their act together, but then they can’t get around to getting married.
Laura Horn:
But I know some people, though-
Trent Horn:
And then there are other guys-
Laura Horn:
Go ahead.
Trent Horn:
Who are like, “I just want to get married” as a way to fulfill their own emotional neediness. Somebody who’s like, “I want to get married, not because I need … I’m co-dependent, but because I want to share my life with somebody else.” Just having that attitude, that would be a big step.
Laura Horn:
But I do think sometimes people are just overly picky. I know a lot of people who, they just don’t necessarily have a set career and they still have really great fulfilling marriages. And they make it work, and they have children, and-
Trent Horn:
That’s true. You married me when I was living on one frozen burrito a day.
Laura Horn:
Yeah, that’s true. I wanted to get engaged, actually, when he only made $600 a month and I’m like, “I don’t see the issue here.”
Trent Horn:
Yeah, you’re like, “Trent, what is the big deal? I eat one yogurt packet a day. You eat one burrito a day. What more would we need? We can live on love. It’s a low calorie diet.” How do you deal with Trent being out of town a lot? I find it hard to take care of kids by myself for long periods of time. It gets lonely.
Laura Horn:
It’s true. It does get lonely. That’s why you need Netflix, my friend. I’m just kidding.
Trent Horn:
You’re not supposed to watch Netflix.
Laura Horn:
I know. I’m just kidding. I’m sorry.
Trent Horn:
Disney Plus. We can’t watch Disney Plus either.
Laura Horn:
Oh, no. They’re all homosexual.
Trent Horn:
EWTN streaming with-
Laura Horn:
That’s true. I know. All my holy friends-
Trent Horn:
The friar and the lamb.
Laura Horn:
I know. They’re all like, “Do you watch Mr. Cello?” I’m like … I’m just kidding.
Trent Horn:
[inaudible 00:13:16] How do you … I’ve dialed back on speaking because it’s hard, and I think it’s hard-
Laura Horn:
You have dialed back.
Trent Horn:
At home.
Laura Horn:
I see that now kind of as my job, and that’s been nice, to see it as that … When he travels, that it’s my job to take care of the kids at home. I’ve found that the hardest time was actually when the kids were little. Now that they’re … They’re still little, but I mean now that they’re growing into school ages and they have a little bit more activities and it’s easier to leave the house, it’s gotten a lot easier. But I will tell you, when Matthew was two and Thomas was a newborn and you would travel, it was really difficult because it’s just like, you have no one to talk to. I have a lot of audiobooks which are really nice, and I put my kids to bed really early when Trent is out of town. I put my kids to bed, seriously, by 7:00 when Trent is out of town. That’s been pretty helpful. And they just listen to audiobooks in their rooms.
Trent Horn:
That’s good. When I … Yeah, especially now with travel, I try to keep it to one night away.
Laura Horn:
That is nice.
Trent Horn:
It’s hard when it stretches into multiple nights. I think that’s when it’s harder.
Laura Horn:
I’d say, actually, a lot of the harder transition now is actually when Trent returns. We’re so happy to have him back, don’t get me wrong.
Trent Horn:
[inaudible 00:14:26] [crosstalk 00:14:27]
Laura Horn:
Just kidding. You have to have real … I have to have realistic expectations that when he comes back, he’s going to be tired and I’m tired. He expects a reprieve coming back home, like, “When I get home, I’m going to be able to rest.” And I’m like, “I’m going to be able to rest when Trent gets home,” and that’s not true for either of us.
Trent Horn:
I think it’s hard when wives think like, “Did you enjoy your vacation? Now you’re back. You got to have your fancy trip, and only if you-”
Laura Horn:
You do have fancy trips.
Trent Horn:
I know.
Laura Horn:
Sometimes wives think, “What are you doing, eating out all day? Because I’m just eating out twice a day.”
Trent Horn:
Eating out is a tiring experience, number one. Number two, no, it’s not glamorous when it’s like, go, drive, sit in crampy little plane with people yelling at you about your mask or not-
Laura Horn:
That is true.
Trent Horn:
Lack of wearing one. Go to hotel, sleep in bed slept in by 100 other people.
Laura Horn:
That’s true. I actually really hate hotels.
Trent Horn:
And then, go to event, shuttle to there, speak two three talks, shuttle back to hotel, come back. I will give you, though, I do feel bad when it’s more luxurious trips. I do feel like … When we’ve done Catholic Answers, the cruises before, I-
Laura Horn:
You can’t even contact me.
Trent Horn:
Don’t even want to call you. I don’t even want to call you because I hear the kids screaming, and then I have my … The cheeseburger and slice of cake I ordered through room service because it’s unlimited, and my DVD of Anchorman that I’m watching. I’m just like … I’m not even going to hide. I’m not even going to hide what I’m doing here. We’ll see if I end up on a cruise again. That’s why next time I’ll take you and all the kids, and it’ll be even worse than you staying home.
Laura Horn:
I don’t know how people do it. We would, for sure, end up throwing ourselves over the railing by the end.
Trent Horn:
Right? And then I see the ship turning around. “Don’t try to get me!” Let’s see here. What are your favorite and least favorite chores?
Laura Horn:
Actually, I really like chores. I’m not going to lie to you. Except for I really hate laundry. My mom did laundry, us growing up, and she loved that chore, and then as an adult, I hate it. I just throw everything in, in one load and hope for the best. Sometimes my washer just stalls like I’ve done too big of a load, and I’m like, “I know. Shut up. Who even has time for you to break down?”
Trent Horn:
I know. I sometimes say … I try to be a help to you. I’m like, “I did the laundry.” You’re like, “You did the laundry?”
Laura Horn:
No, he doesn’t do the laundry. He transfers the laundry. He puts it in the dryer. The hardest part of doing the laundry is taking it out and folding it and putting it away.
Trent Horn:
But I do offer to fold it, and you’re like, “You didn’t do the origami of-”
Laura Horn:
You don’t fold it. You throw it into piles still inside out, and you’re like, “Could you help me with the socks?” I’m like, “The socks are the hardest part!” I super appreciate you.
Trent Horn:
Don’t try to pat my puppy head.
Laura Horn:
Tim Gordon weeps.
Trent Horn:
If you have a question about how to do laundry, ask … No. I ask you. Are you supposed to ask me? What was I going … No. With the … Why would I take kid underwear and fold it into eight folds and put it in when they just-
Laura Horn:
You don’t have to-
Trent Horn:
Like a-
Laura Horn:
But you have to fold their socks. Otherwise you have a Batman sock with a Buzz sock.
Trent Horn:
They don’t care. They really don’t. You do think they care about that?
Laura Horn:
Thomas, your melancholic OCD child?
Trent Horn:
That’s true. There’s a [inaudible 00:17:56] in my sock.
Laura Horn:
Totally.
Trent Horn:
That is true. He does take after me. He is perfectionist in that respect. Speaking of roles between men and women in traditionalism, do you and Trent attend the traditional Latin Mass?
Laura Horn:
What do you say?
Trent Horn:
I think the traditional Latin Mass is beautiful, but it doesn’t … It’s not the particular spirituality that I feel called to. But I understand people who particularly find a special kind of beauty in sacred silence and that tradition in the Western Church. I think that’s great, it’s just not what I feel called to. But my favorite liturgy is the divine liturgy. I think you like that a lot as well. I don’t know why I’m … Why am I [inaudible 00:18:40]? The question was for you.
Laura Horn:
I don’t know what I’m allowed to say.
Trent Horn:
You can say whatever you want.
Laura Horn:
I struggle … The TLM Mass is so beautiful, the prayers are so beautiful. I struggle with my mind wandering during the traditional Mass and that is difficult for me, so I prefer something that’s more active participation, such as-
Trent Horn:
But not active in a cheesy way. That’s why I like divine liturgy.
Laura Horn:
That’s true.
Trent Horn:
It’s like Vatican II said, “Full active conscious participation.” With the divine liturgy, especially in the Ruthenian, the Byzantine Church, it’s like, we just sing the entire liturgy together from beginning to end. I’m like, “This is awesome.”
Laura Horn:
Processions and incense. It is really beautiful. We do go to a church down the street that’s a Novus Ordo, but it’s a Novus Ordo done really beautifully, also, so during the week and things like that we go there. And that’s a really beautiful church also.
Trent Horn:
We’ve been going there more on Sundays, so it’s more on … It’s less common on Sunday we’ll be at divine liturgy-
Laura Horn:
Just because of the distance.
Trent Horn:
It’s far too. That’s the other thing. It’s like 40 minutes away from us. But we still go maybe once a month on Sundays. I try once a week, whenever they have divine liturgy during the week, it’s at 7:00. I take my oldest son, Matthew, to midweek. And that’s super special, because there’s only seven people.
Laura Horn:
They go to that and Wendy’s.
Trent Horn:
Oh, yeah.
Laura Horn:
It is celestial.
Trent Horn:
It is … Exactly. That is a great word to describe it. That’s how we would feel. I think we both would agree the TLM, it’s beautiful, it’s not our particular spiritual calling. It’s great if it is for other people.
Laura Horn:
But the prayers really are so pretty at the Traditional Latin Mass.
Trent Horn:
Absolutely. That’s why I love the Byzantine Church, because they’re just so intricate, all of the prayers that are uttered. But I love that when I can find a Novus Ordo that’s done well, it’s like, great. That’s awesome. It’s about building up that community where you are.
Laura Horn:
It is very difficult … Sorry. Just-
Trent Horn:
Go ahead.
Laura Horn:
Can I say one more thing? Sorry.
Trent Horn:
Sure.
Laura Horn:
It’s also harder for me, having three small, young children. I know some … It’s harder for me to keep them quiet in church for long periods of time.
Trent Horn:
Yeah.
Laura Horn:
I know some people don’t mind the child chatter and stuff. I feel like I would treat … I treat my kids differently, though, in situations like that, and that’s unfair to them. I just want them to be active participants also and not just get yelled at all the time by me. That’s a flaw of myself, not of the Mass, obviously, but you can edit that out if you want.
Trent Horn:
I think we’re past the point of editing anything out. We’re blasting ahead. Let me actually skip ahead. What is your favorite of Trent’s books?
Laura Horn:
My favorite of Trent’s books. Let’s see. Probably … I like political issues, but that’s not great. I realize that I probably shouldn’t. I really like your book on socialism.
Trent Horn:
Because you’re like, “Oh, great. I can read this book.”
Laura Horn:
But it should be something holier.
Trent Horn:
Yeah, but it’s like you listen to Ben Shapiro all the time, so now it’s me getting to Shapiro out a little. You’re like, “This is great.” [inaudible 00:21:42] and I hear about something Ben said today.
Laura Horn:
I wish that I would’ve read that book before I went to college, because just my first year of college at NMSU, I studied political science. I remember one time my sociologist professor saying, “China isn’t so bad, and they’re a system.” I wish that I would’ve read your book to have some rejoinders to him during class. Anyway, just looking back and being like, “I wish I would’ve known now what I know … Known then what I know now.” Anyway, that’s the most readable of your books, but as far as my favorite book, I’d say probably Hard Sayings. I actually really liked Hard Sayings.
Trent Horn:
Oh, wow. My book on Bible difficulties.
Laura Horn:
Yeah. Because I didn’t read the Bible all the way through until I was an adult, and then I read it with that book, and that was really helpful.
Trent Horn:
Yay. There wasn’t a jump cut here. We didn’t edit anything out. What’s your … Or maybe we did. What’s your favorite thing about being a wife and a mom? Let’s try it again. What’s your favorite thing?
Laura Horn:
There are just so many things.
Trent Horn:
I can’t …
Laura Horn:
Give me a thing.
Trent Horn:
I don’t know. My-
Laura Horn:
I would say, honestly, I just really like my children, and I really like you.
Trent Horn:
I know.
Laura Horn:
I really like your temperaments and I like your … I just love our life together. Sometimes I look at it and I’m like, “This is too good to be true.”
Trent Horn:
Right. Aww. That’s how I feel.
Laura Horn:
It really is.
Trent Horn:
It’s fun.
Laura Horn:
We were blessed with three very unique children, and they’re all such a gift, and they all just vary so much. It’s … I don’t know. Today Matthew, we had to go to the doctor, and he was just so polite, and he was like, “Maybe when my diphtheria is over …” And then he looked at the doctor and he’s like, “I don’t even know if I have diphtheria.” It was just so funny, and everybody was rolling. He’s just funny.
Trent Horn:
He’s been playing too much Oregon Trail.
Laura Horn:
Right.
Trent Horn:
“Mother, I’m going to die of cholera.” We’re driving out in the rain, “Let’s ford the river.”
Laura Horn:
Yes.
Trent Horn:
We do have a beautiful life. Beautiful wife, beautiful life.
Laura Horn:
Yes.
Trent Horn:
Makes me happy.
Laura Horn:
I like the permanence of being a wife and a mom. It’s hard because it’s in a culture that quits everything, it’s nice to know as a wife and a mom, you are committed to something that matters the most. I like that it’s locked in.
Trent Horn:
I like that too. I like that I can’t escape. Look at these little shackles on here. Gosh. No. It’s good because there’s a saying when you’re prone to maybe just-
Laura Horn:
That’s true-
Trent Horn:
More of the flake out on stuff-
Laura Horn:
Of more of the flaky temperaments, so it’s nice that it’s forever. What about you? What’s your favorite thing about being a husband and a dad?
Trent Horn:
That I get to be a grown up now.
Laura Horn:
That’s true.
Trent Horn:
If I wasn’t married, people would still … Like, “You’re so young. You’re such a kid.” I don’t know. Being able to say things … It’s better than saying … Being able to say, like, “Can my wife come with me to the conference?”
Laura Horn:
That’s true.
Trent Horn:
“Can my girlfriend come with me to the conference?” That’s a John Mulaney joke, but I’m still going to steal it. It just sounds … “Oh, this is my son.” Now I’m like-
Laura Horn:
It’s true.
Trent Horn:
I’m Mufasa. My son. This is-
Laura Horn:
Especially when you have three, there’s almost like street cred. The more children you have in-
Trent Horn:
Where’s that shadow-
Laura Horn:
A cart-
Trent Horn:
Dad? That is Dallas County. We do not go there.
Laura Horn:
Never go there.
Trent Horn:
We stay in Tarrant County. Especially for your school a few times a week [inaudible 00:25:09]
Trent Horn:
All right. I’m almost out of room here on my little DSLR camera. It shuts off at 29 minutes, so look at that. We made it all through. Thank you guys-
Laura Horn:
Nice. Thanks for having me.
Trent Horn:
For watching.
Laura Horn:
That was fun.
Trent Horn:
It was fun. Let’s get all the kiddos in. That’ll be-
Laura Horn:
Right now?
Trent Horn:
No. But soon. We’ll take questions for them.
Laura Horn:
John Paul is more active.
Trent Horn:
Yes. That’s a word for it. Thank you. I’ll let you-
Laura Horn:
Thank you.
Trent Horn:
Go night-night.
Laura Horn:
All right. And then-
Trent Horn:
I’ll stay up and work-
Laura Horn:
I go night-night.
Trent Horn:
As per usual. Thank you guys for watching.
Laura Horn:
Thank you for your support.
Trent Horn:
Yeah. If you want to submit more questions and take part in bonus stuff, definitely check out trenthornpodcast.com, and we will see you guys later. Have a blessed day.
Speaker 4:
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